just love the story because at the end of the day, people are so confused about this, and they don't know what to make of it. fitch and s&p says it's not changing the ratings here. >> yes. i think the white house is beginning to realize they overplayed their hands on this thinking the republicans would cave as they have in the past x and when they didn't, they were unprepared for it, and they are scrambling to say it's a long process, so if the world ends in a hundred years, it's because of that sequester. gerri: right, exactly. we're supposed to get news of the president signing this by 7 -- in the 7 p.m. hour, that's the expectation now, the new news, this hour, and i want to tell you, the devil's inthe details; right, guys? >> yep. gerri: the architects of capitol hill, the architects of the capitol, that's the job title, saying there's no furloughs. if you were worried somebody else there would be laid off, u know, a maid, somebody cleaning the toilets, it's not going to happen. that is the good news. grover, to you.